How to survive without the "ALL groups"

@BrianHanifin wrote:

I have noticed there is some concern about how to get along without the formerly automatically generated groups like group.all_lights. I promise you there is a way to make your code work without them. Ask here and we can help you.

First off, the following is the correct way to turn off every light now.

service: light.turn_off
entity_id: all  # replace group.all_lights with `all`

Here are some example templates to get lists of entity_ids to get you thinking.

List of all lights

{{ states.light | map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

List of lights that are turned on

{{ states.light | selectattr('state','eq','on') | map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

With some slights changes you can make these work for covers.

List of all covers

{{ states.cover | map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

List of covers that are open

{{ states.light | selectattr('state','eq','open') | map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

If you really feel like you need the all groups back you have some options. For example you can create a script that rebuilds a group. The script below literally recreates group.all_lights. Call this script just before you need the group to update it.

script:
  # Recreate group.all_lights
  update_all_light_group:
    sequence:
      - service: group.set
        data_template:
          object_id: "all_lights"
          entities: >
            {{ states.light |  map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

  # Recreate group.all_switches
  update_all_switches_group:
    sequence:
      - service: group.set
        data_template:
          object_id: "all_switches"
          entities: >
            {{ states.switch |  map(attribute='entity_id') | join(',') }}

While these group won’t updated every time the status of a state changes… well, your server doesn’t have to update the group every time a change happens. Every little bit helps on a Raspberry Pi… ammiright?

There also two AppDaemon apps available on HACS that intend to recreate those groups for you.

1. https://github.com/Petro31/ad_group_all
2. https://github.com/so3n/Bring-Back-group.all_x

If you would like help converting a script post an example of your code in this topic.

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